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The Uncertain Hour

The Uncertain Hour - Investigative Podcast
Krissy Clark
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My boss is an app

Mar 24, 2021 · Season 5 · Episode 8
Julia Soler loads up her minivan with groceries before her shift doing gig work with Amazon Flex.

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  • Mar 17, 2021 · Season 5 · Episode 7

    Inside baseball

    Anthony Shew (right) fist bumps fellow pitcher Adam Wainwright while playing for the minor league Springfield Cardinals. As a minor league player, Shew isn't subject to federal minimum wage and overtime requirements.
    Courtesy: Anthony Shew

    In minor league baseball, athletes train, suit up and play for wages that would be illegal in most sectors.

  • Mar 10, 2021 · Season 5 · Episode 6

    Big Boss, Little Boss

    Crowds of people stand in the street, waiting to identify bodies of immigrant workers following the Triangle Shirtwaist Company fire in New York City, March 25, 1911.
    Hulton Archive/Getty Images

    After Jimmy Nicks’ job was subcontracted, he took both companies to court — the subcontractor he worked for, the “little boss,” and its client, the “big boss,” Koch Foods.

  • Mar 3, 2021 · Season 5 · Episode 5

    To catch a chicken

    Jimmy Nicks, a chicken catcher in Mississippi.
    Caitlin Esch/Marketplace

    When chicken catcher Jimmy Nicks’ job was subcontracted, he started doing the same job for a new boss — only without the pay, protections and benefits he’d come to rely on.

  • Feb 24, 2021 · Season 5 · Episode 4

    The liquid workforce

    A group of Accenture employees.
    Peter Balonon-Rosen/Marketplace

    Over a quarter of the world’s largest employers don’t just make or sell products — they also rent out workers. Let’s talk about how we got here.

  • Feb 17, 2021 · Season 5 · Episode 3

    “To suffer or permit to work”

    “To suffer or permit to work”
    Ben Hethcoat/Marketplace

    We’ll finally tell you what happened to Jerry Vazquez and how it relates to the story of a 1930s hotel chambermaid. Plus, how we got the federal minimum wage and a new version of “The ABCs.”

  • Feb 10, 2021 · Season 5 · Episode 2

    Who’s the boss?

    Jerry Vazquez and his mother Isabelle.
    Krissy Clark/Marketplace

    Jerry Vazquez was running his own cleaning franchise, but he was barely getting by. He started feeling like he had little control over a business he owned — so Jerry decided it was time to fight back.

  • Feb 3, 2021 · Season 5 · Episode 1

    Congratulations! You’re an entrepreneur now

    Jerry Vazquez holding some of his Jan-Pro gear.
    Krissy Clark/Marketplace

    Jerry Vazquez always dreamed of owning his own business. But becoming a franchisee of a janitorial services company left him in debt and earning less than minimum wage.

  • Jan 27, 2021 · Season 5

    ‘The Uncertain Hour’ is back!

    ‘The Uncertain Hour’ is back!
    Marketplace

    In season five, we’re looking at this thing we used to call employment. Listen to the trailer now.

  • Jun 17, 2020 · Season 4 · Episode 6

    Answering your “History of Now” questions

    Answering your “History of Now” questions
    Ben Hethcoat/Marketplace

    We’re capping off our season by answering your questions about chicken workers, health insurance and more.

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About the show

Obscure policies, forgotten histories and why America’s like this.

"The Uncertain Hour" explains our weird, complicated and often unequal economy — and why some people get ahead and some get left behind.

Season six is an up close look at the welfare-to-work industrial complex and some of the multimillion-dollar for-profit companies that run many welfare offices around the country today. By weaving together eye-opening moments in history with immersive field reporting, the series brings us a hidden-in-plain-sight story about the strange way our cash welfare system has evolved and where it might be headed. Today, anyone who signs up for cash welfare must quickly find a job or navigate a maze of work requirements in order to qualify for a government check, to prove they’re not freeloading off the government. But where did this idea that you should have to work to benefit from the social safety net come from? Does the policy actually help people climb out of poverty? And how are for-profit welfare centers cashing in? 

As politicians call for more work requirements in safety-net programs, this series tells story about what work requirements feel like up close, and the industry that has been built around these policies that coerce labor out of low-income people — sometimes for what amounts to less than minimum wage.  

Krissy Clark is the award-winning host and senior correspondent of "The Uncertain Hour," where she tries to make sense of the wonky policies that shape wealth, poverty and economic mobility in America. Her reporting has been featured by outlets including "99% Invisible," The Center for Investigative Reporting and "Last Week Tonight With John Oliver."  

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