Five years ago, the World Health Organization declared COVID-19 a pandemic. Since then, there have been lockdowns, a recession, two presidential elections and more than a million American lives lost from the disease.

In many ways, life feels like it’s back to normal, but David Wallace-Wells, a writer for The New York Times, argues that the pandemic still has a grip on American life, from our faith in public health institutions to the way consumers feel about the economy.

“This was a world historical trauma of the kind that used to define whole generations when it hit societies in earlier times, and we’re probably not taking seriously enough the possibility that we’re living through that scale of transformation now,” said Wallace-Wells.

On the show today, Wallace-Wells walks us through how Americans neglected to process the seismic impact of the pandemic in the rush to recover from it, and how it’s left us more self-interested and less empathetic. Plus, how this can help explain disgruntled consumers and a growing appetite for risk-taking in the economy.

Then, we’ll get into how responses to public health emergencies has shifted to the realm of the private sector since the pandemic. And, why universities are choosing to stay silent on divisive issues.

Later, we’ll hear listeners’ reflections on the COVID-19 pandemic, five years on. And, the surprising benefits of dandelions.

Here’s everything we talked about today:

• “Opinion | How Covid Remade Our America, Five Years Later” from The New York Times

• “30 Charts That Show How Covid Changed Everything in March 2020” from The New York Times

• “Gyms, pets and takeout: How the pandemic has shifted daily life” from The Washington Post

• “It’s Not the Economy. It’s the Pandemic.” from The Atlantic

• “Opinion | Covid’s Deadliest Effect Took Five Years to Appear” from The New York Times

• “More Universities Are Choosing to Stay Neutral on the Biggest Issues” from The New York Times

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