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Episode 1340Mar 1, 2025

What the Trump-Zelenskyy meeting says about the world economic order

Plus: Goodbye, Skype.

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What the Trump-Zelenskyy meeting says about the world economic order
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A meeting between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and U.S. President Donald Trump today dissolved into a heated argument in the Oval Office, flipping the switch of the global economic order. Kai Ryssdal and guest host Nova Safo discuss what they took away from the contentious meeting and what it might mean for American-style capitalism. Plus, we’ll shift gears and play a lively round of Half Full/Half Empty!

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